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Comment by Ran on October 9, 2008 at 12:21pm

You know Tom, this maybe an experiment but a lot of time and effort is invested by your members, it maybe a test for you, but the videos and blogs and feelings are live ammo for us? this are not placebos.

I for one am still not sure what sort of entity the admin group is, and what kind of involvement do you intend to keep here, do you all speak with one voice? will we get to hear the discussions and offer feedback? This is your site but we all have a stake in its success.
For example its hard to invest so much time into videos if you can get banned for one infraction, you said in one video that there will be talking to the member and yet VF and others have said it was 1 e-mail with no response and BAM the red button was pushed, so which is it?

This site has been plagued with drama for weeks now, every time one crisis ends another one happens or manufactured by another member do you think its a problem? are you planning to do something? do you feel its not your place to do something?

ok, I know those were a lot of questions and you may not answer even one, but this are things on my mind...

Comment by Ken ♦ kenrg on October 9, 2008 at 12:21pm

I've learned so much the past 11 weeks I think my head is going to explode. But what an experiment!

Comment by RipFIlms on October 9, 2008 at 12:24pm

sounds like your trying to explain 6 sigma lol. Point taken. i gotcha.. i will post vlogs here explaining stuff. I cant promise it will be edgy, I promise to add disclaimers if i feel they are needed. maybe a how did i make those castrated balls look so real? lol ...........................Patriots baby! I had to do it. snow bowl? ha ha ha

Comment by S.A. Murray (ULTRA done) on October 9, 2008 at 12:26pm

Awesome Tom .. while you're learning from us, who's teaching who?? Are there lessons to be learned for us the "community".. of course there are, but only with clear, set guidelines. Will there be gray areas in that line of thinking, yes. It all comes down to respect with out trying to push to see where the boundaries end. Like you said, that's where managing gets ugly. Ffor the unfortunate "community" that have to endure the potential "pusher", we know the difference IS that this site will deal with the issues and come to a final resolve so that we can continue to interact and enjoy the rest of what the community has to offer. And if I ever cross or get close to the edge of the TSO boundary, I totally expect to be contacted about it personally so that we can resolve the issue without feelings getting hurt or any animosity towards the group, not that I would try to "test" the limitations.

Oh .. and Paul said:

Find more videos like this on VloggerHeads

Comment by Tom Guarriello [Co-Founder] on October 9, 2008 at 12:26pm

lol 6 Sigma for sure! Thanks for taking the point in the spirit in which it was given.

Patriots? Please. I have to hear about them enough from my son-in-law, I don't need you, too! Go Stillerz!

8^)

Comment by Tom Guarriello [Co-Founder] on October 9, 2008 at 12:34pm

I know about, and appreciate, the energy and effort VH's community members are putting into the site. I don't mean to make "experimental" equate with "trivial." As for transparency of discussions, I hope I made that clear in the vid: we're aiming at being very transparent. That transparency will never be complete; it very, very seldom is in any context. I certainly don't think we intend to intervene in every "dramatic" situation and don't think we have. That doesn't mean we aren't watching (and, hopefully, learning).

As for banning, I'll stick to what I've said before: no established community member has been banned without at least one discussion that made it clear to us that, given the binary nature of our tools (on the Ning platform, one is either a "member" or "banned"), we had no other choice.

Thanks.

Comment by RipFIlms on October 9, 2008 at 12:36pm

Im just finishing up 6 sigma certification at work... just remember define, measure, analize, improve, & control. Now that i know your a steelers fan, well lets just say.. lets get it on!

Comment by Tom Guarriello [Co-Founder] on October 9, 2008 at 12:37pm

I'm sure you're not alone in those opinions, Jeremy. I'm not sure when we'll no longer be experimenting; probably never. I do hope, however, that the issues we find ourselves experimenting with will become less and less substantive as we go along.

Comment by S.A. Murray (ULTRA done) on October 9, 2008 at 12:38pm

I also like what this experiment taught:
Calhoun's "Rat Utopia" Experiment

Comment by RipFIlms on October 9, 2008 at 12:38pm

I subbed to you on that other site.. cool vlogs there.. love the hair! :P

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