Alright some of these post are getting a bit long so, ill just state my points more directly.
Lean in, I meaning you are giving your opinion based on situations you have not been here and I am just considering that factor.
As for the status Column incident, seems you are aware of a little more than you let on. I do take responsibility for whatever was coming down, when I set some bridges a blaze meaning my relationships between me and a few members of VH.
Yes, it is all about the community, which means like any democracy at some point a decision gets made whether it is by majority or for the greater good by elected representatives, and whether you like it or not, that isn't always going to go your way!
As far as your value for some members, yeah, well I don't see them the same way you do, but non the less, their personal decisions or choices on what they want to do with their lives, has less effect on me than what they singularly want to blog about.
As far as your Orwellian comment, you are either fucking joking or cracked your fucking head, and in case you have missed it the same jackass you mentioned is still posting his irrelevant stupid shit on the site now, as far as the moderation of the site, the only thing I can say is agree it's not all about me.
No, but what i am saying is that one is a case of an individuals death and others around her being pretty callus about it, and the other circumstance is people getting hell bent out of shape
Well, true. But one is an event that's past, happened to people we don't know personally, and we can't really do anything about. And the other is a negative un-going thing that's happening to us right now. I know you've said some members are your "enemies" on here. But I do consider them friends (at least in the online chat sense) and am hurt by their loss. But whether I miss them or not, other members expressing their happiness that someone has left or stopped posting doesn't seem very nice, civil or showing an appropriate degree of respect. Hence my "celebration" remarks. Of course, I'm not asking for those comments or members to be removed or penalized, just expressing my contrary opinion, that it's not happy news when one of the members I have the most engaging, intelligent, non-hateful debates with was compelled to leave.
Well this isn't called Droneheads, or A6heads, its called Vloggerheads, and Renetto isn't been on in a very long time, not even sure he is a member, If you are hurt by their loss, try FaceBook, they are still alive, and whether you appreciate a loss or not doesn't change the fact you aren't everybody just like I am not, but since you decided to lean here, there you go.
for the same reason i can't post about tits and ass, and say "Well maybe you shouldn't have clicked on it" the same way some half brain racist nitwits also should get a fucking clue and stop posting the same bullshit by the same circle jerk wagon
Posting nude images is clear a violation of ToS (even Ning's ToS, let alone our own. Members discussing a topic that you don't like or are tired of is not.
I said post about big tits and ass, and if i did it in context to describing the contrast between videos in the music recording industry, vs the way music was made without such things, well then i could say all kinds of clever bullshit can't I. How about i keep reposting that shit for the same 5 people that want to talk about it, while pissing everybody else off, again Facebook, but then again you would have to have a face and probably reveal yourself on there, but maybe you get around that too.
just be honest about it and stop pretending like you have some objective motive.
You know how I mentioned that my content from years back is still on this site? I have never been in favor of excessive content deletion or driving members off this site. I feel it is wrong and consistently speak out against it. My comments in JAW's blog and similar have nothing to do with a desire to rile you up or whatever else you happen to suspect about me. I am very concerned with the way this site moderates itself, the way we treat minority opinion members, etc,
I have no interest in "stirring the pot." This stupid fucking pot has cost me some of the of the best members and activity on this site.
Life changes, people adapt, the world evolves, I used to talk about bullshit when i was 17 too, but at some point insincere bullshit and having all your way and dreaming about it, is just another form of delusion now isn't it.
As for the people you mentioned well guess what they are adults too, nobody is as you have suggested obligated to kiss anybody else's ass over another, but the grand standing soap Opera act get's kind of old, especially when it is the same characters, except someone new being told to fuck off while the comments post and post and post about copy pasta and embeds non gives a fuck about. of the same spam and flame theme.
I didn't highlight because i am mad, i highlighted it because i am responding to your responding about a quote, and don't take the swearing personally, I have a bad habbit of dropping the Fbomb once in a while, its a bad habit.
Remove someones life, and require and consider what happened up to it, Not a Problem. Nor a reason to get upset.
I don't understand. "Remove someones life?" Are you talking about Treyvon Martin's life? Are you suggesting someone here is somehow responsible for what happened that night?
Or do you mean to say you felt I was implying that his death was not a problem or reason to get upset? Because of course it is; I think it's tragic as well. I wasn't trying to suggest you had no right to be upset by it... I didn't even bring that whole concept up as far as I'm aware?
No, but what i am saying is that one is a case of an individuals death and others around her being pretty callus about it, and the other circumstance is people getting hell bent out of shape because another racist asshole post a bunch of blogs for expressed purpose of getting a desired effect, which they almost always do.
Are you serious celebration, what passes to you as celebrating,
I'm quite serious in my use of the word "celebration," and I think the situation's rather ugly.
Based on what exactly, not curling in a fetal position because someone made a conscious choice to leave because, this isn't the fucking Jerry Springer show?
Hate to break it to you but I don't see a bunch of people coming here to be enlightened by all the facts from someone who isn't putting anything up themselves, and is especially unqualified, and posting the same spam bullshit. otherwise known as flaming
Well I guess they can just as easily not post on a bog they read as easily as some ignorant asshat can not post the same petty bullshit over and over
No. One is making a personal choice for how and where you participate, and the other is having the choice made for you and forced upon you. I think the latter is a lot harder.
And here is there your leaning in reveals itself, and i am not really sure you are really being honest, it is a website what you post is very much subjected to what other people interpret especially when embeds and copy pasta galore is posted about the same shit.
Of course someone can ignore one and then another, but then again Donald Trump could hand out hundred dollar bills we all make choices, and none of us are not responsible for the shit we put out, it isn't a free speech issue, this isn't fucking country, your rights, and livelihood are not dictated or determined by a fucking site, but the sites over all impression and look very much is, and for the same reason i can't post about tits and ass, and say "Well maybe you shouldn't have clicked on it" the same way some half brain racist nitwits also should get a fucking clue and stop posting the same bullshit by the same circle jerk wagon, of wanna take a guess what background discuss the same fucking issue brought in 6 fucking blogs, well before any court case.
Take that shit to Stormfront or whatever that neo nazi fucking website is called. It's called fucking respect, and there isn't an app for it. You are singularly taking an issue you came in on, were explained and are leaning in on, good for you, but so far for the first time since i known you, i am getting a vibe you aren't really here to dialog anything, but just stir the pot because your bored, be my guess, just be honest about it and stop pretending like you have some objective motive.
At what point do you let that bleed into every other fucking blog,
Surely the people "bleeding" into other blogs can take responsibility for their own decision to bleed or not; we don't need to erase other members' blogs just so they have nothing to bl
Okay, well to answer your question, I've been a member since year 1, when the site was private. I contacted Renetto on Youtube for an invite, explaining to him then that I was not a vlogger but still interested in participating, and he gave me an invite. This can be "verified" by the fact that all my old content is still on this site.
Yeah well you sometimes lean in on subjects you really aren't connected in which is fine, and then you seem to ask what is legitimately going on, but outside of that when it comes to Drama, i have seen you rarely post anything else, and now you are fanning flames side ways about an issue and accusing people of celebrating because of some participation of others or lack there of you assume because of?
You can do what you want, and the truth is none can touch that because of the way your membership and participation was i guess grandfathered in and then your presence here in its current form was voted in on, all the same, your timing the fact i kind of tried to answer some of your questions you ignore about some things, and then went right into weighing in almost immediately, when i ran the risk of what was already a volatile situation to explain to you, NOW you are accusing me and others of what exactly i don't know, but your position IMO is wrong, and your putting in and not really putting up, kind of suggest, something much less about you that i ever suspected, either way, what started in the activity feed was removed, because it was banter not intended to be really explored, but all the same, I do find it annoying that you seem to be having a go after all you seen, regardless to who side you may seem to be taking.
Remove someones life, and require and consider what happened up to it, Not a Problem. Nor a reason to get upset.
Remove a fucking post from the side and some shitty embeds, and someone decides to leave, while a few others left speculate on why others made personal choices which may have nothing to do with the bullshit they are trying to pull everybody into. OMFG someone call the net police.
Are you serious celebration, what passes to you as celebrating, because the world moves on just fine without another blog about the same topic ironed out by the same circle jerk who all agree with each others opinions, and how dare anybody view it as anything else who walks into the blog, Well I guess they can just as easily not post on a bog they read as easily as some ignorant asshat can not post the same petty bullshit over and over for no other reason other than to drive an agenda.
At what point do you let that bleed into every other fucking blog, until it gets ridden in the dirt, maybe that passes as FUN for you, but generally on the site, i think people kind of actually come to share other things too.
I don't mean to give you the wrong impression; you're welcome to ask all the sincere questions you like. And I'm not asking you to take anything down. I'm just saying no status flame wars for me, thanks.
I'd genuinely like to have a civil discussion with you at any time, about any subject. :)
Which is why they were taken down, 1 because you were probably right, and 2, because it was a bit of an attempt at humor. I have no doubt, you might have a civil discussion with me or anybody since i have seen you.
But the question was made in friendly banter, not really an accusation or something that, i needed to know.
Just a heads up. I'm keeping notes for the Headlys and you are giving Geoff a run for his money as best commenter :-) But seriously, I really enjoy reading your comments. It's not often obvious that a person thinks before they type. Carry on :-)