Why are you doing this to yourselves?

Why are you letting PB ruin your interaction and this site?

It is the community that sets the tone on VH, no one else. If you consistently engage a man who almost exclusively posts content here to incite drama, then you are guilty of what's happening to this site. Instead of this place being an opportunity to interact on all that makes up your worlds, to learn from one another and forge friendships, this has become a place where the members indulge in dramatic fights about obnoxious and outrageous statements. But instead of ignoring PB, you flock around his bullshit and play along.

Is this what you want? Is this why we go through the troubles of making this a community owned web site? Is this what the members who were kind enough to do so gave their money for? Do you really prefer the interaction with a self-righteous moron over the interaction with the long list of people that left because of the incessant vile drama you so readily engage in?

This is not about vortex and his silly feud with PB. Vortex is just one of you who can't handle himself when PB is around and goes to ridiculous posts that will one day get him banned. It is not about PB, though he's at the heart of this, who consistently rides the edges of TOS and GP. It is about you, the folks who engage him and debate his statements instead of just ignoring them. It is about you who stand by and watch, it is about you who leave.

Why don't you stand up for what is yours instead of shitting on your own carpet and complaining about the smell? 

Speak up, fools! 


P.S: In case of doubt: This is not an official post. 

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Comment by a6 on April 15, 2012 at 7:03am

Nobody's ruining my interactions.

Debate is A-okay with me.  I often enjoy it.

And I don't mind drama either, really.  If people want to drama it up with each other, it's no skin off my nose.

It's the beginning of summer.  VH always slows this time of year.  Vortex vs PB are just filling the space - it beats dead air.

And there's still good content rolling along.  I'm still getting caught up on The Joy of Psychology videos Ben has been posting (seriously, guys, if you've missed 'em, clicky clicky).

Comment by Diesel Bodine on April 15, 2012 at 7:54am

There's an art to indifference and there are situations where its use is appropriate & beneficial.

Comment by Judith on April 15, 2012 at 9:15am

As long as the vile and hateful behavior by a couple of members is tolerated here, I fear things will never change.  Negativity breeds negativity.  Positive interaction is what I wish for, as I have stated in the past.

Comment by Sedona Leigh <MOD> on April 15, 2012 at 9:18am


read for comprehension.

This isn't about your opinion or the fact you are indignant or the fact you have contributed to Vloggerheads.

Michael is asking for everyone ELSE's opinion.

Comment by Sedona Leigh <MOD> on April 15, 2012 at 9:20am

My opinion:  In doing the features of the videos, PB does contribute regularly to the video content and participates.  But in also being a Mod, all our issues are PB or Spambot related.  That gets old real quick.  If only it was just Vortex who had a problem, the solution would be simple.

Yes people are leaving over the mad dogging, flaming, spamming, harrassing and name calling.  That is a fact.

Comment by Marcel on April 15, 2012 at 10:02am


Duly noted, you like this ever repeating drama.


There's also a time to say what you think.


I agree.


Yes, people are leaving over this, too many, and the people at the heart of the conflict refuse to accept their responsibility.


This is not a technical problem and we've always been a vlogging and blogging community. 

Comment by Sedona Leigh <MOD> on April 15, 2012 at 10:06am


I'm sure if you stand in line long enough someone will give you an autograph or a guitar pick or something

Comment by Artenius Glynn™ on April 15, 2012 at 10:07am

I see a pattern. 

Comment by a6 on April 15, 2012 at 10:19am

I don't like the Vortex/PB thing, but it doesn't come between me and the content I do enjoy, and it doesn't ruin anything for me.  ...I mean, I guess it IS ruining things for me if it's making people I like leave; but if people are responding that way, that's their own decisions, not Vortex's or anybody else's.

Comment by Suburbanrider on April 15, 2012 at 10:28am

People that are active here pick and choose the subjects they want to engage in.

If they lack so much self control they cannot drag themselves away from PB's content and go watch a pleasant video that is their own fault.

The difference in views and participation in a "hot topic" vlog or blog is astounding compared to a "puppies and rainbows" vlog or blog.

I come here because of what VH is right now. You don't hear me complain about the "good old days."

I can watch some pleasant videos from Ken or WilliamT and then also engage Syd, Lima, or anyone else in heated debate. I often come away with something I did not know before.


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